Wednesday, May 27, 2020

Bill Smith on Movement Leaders

Jeff Sundell interviews Bill Smith about movement leaders. Bill shares some great insights on what to look for in a movement leader, a very clear warning for leaders, and a story from Wuhan that doesn't involve COVID-19.

If you can't view the audio player, click here to listen to this podcast episode.

Show Notes:
I took some sporadic notes on what Bill was saying below. You'll be better to listen to it yourself, but if you want quick snapshot, here is what Bill looks for in movement leaders:
    • They are genuinely saved.
    • They have a sense of the lostness of others and God's heart for lostness. They grieve over lostness at some level, even just their own family or village. 
    • They are people that are continually learning. 
    • They are doers: people that are doing something and want to accomplish something in their life.
    • They have suffered to get something. They have been tested and are passing the test.
    • It is someone that you can connect with, spiritually, interpersonally, etc. There is a chemistry with their mentor. Sometimes you can pass people off to others that they will have a better connection with.
    • They are people that say: "I've done what God had asked. What's next?"

    Here are some thoughts from Bill on developing leaders:
    • When you're face to face with someone, be all in on that person for that time. Ask God: What does that person need from me for their next step?
    • Depend on God to bring others into their lives for those next steps.
  • This episode is open source. If you would like a copy of the audio file to distribute on your own channel, please contact me.
  • Call/text any questions, comments, or feedback: 321 209 3899
  • If you're interested in a transcription of this episode, check out this link.

Wednesday, May 20, 2020

It's time to check on our neighbors

Right now is the time to check on our neighbors. We need to engage our communities with the care and love of Jesus. Ready to get started?

Find a partner, Go to a neighbor, and Use this script.
Opening Line:Hi, We’re out in the midst of (or at the end of) this crisis caring for our neighbors.” 

Three Questions to ask:
  • How are you doing?
  • Do you need anything?
  • Is there anything we can pray about for you or your family?
For more of this guide... visit:

If you want some in person training, we've got space for 10 people to get socially distanced trained on May 31 in Pekin at 10am.  Get in touch with me for more details.

Tuesday, May 19, 2020

One Year On the Road... Plus...

It's been one year since I've launched the podcast On the Road to #No Place Left. A huge thanks to everyone who has listened, (nearly 10,000 downloads!) and even bigger praise for those of you who have grabbed an insight or tool or challenge and done something with it.

I'm here to serve you, the person out there sharing the Gospel, making disciples and reproducing leaders and churches, so thanks for letting me do that!  What follows is a conversation with two new podcasters in the movement and no place left world. You'll hear a little more background about On the Road, but also find out about two awesome new podcasts that are great resources.

Show Notes:
  • Call/text any questions, comments, or feedback: 321 209 3899
  • If you're interested in a transcription of this episode, check out this link.

Celebrating One Year on the Road

Friday, May 15, 2020

Weekly Training for Trainers

We're starting a weekly training for trainers.  

We'll be training Biblical principles and hands on methods to:
- engage the lost,
- share the Gospel,
- disciple new believers to follow Jesus,
- and build a team around you to do the same.

The expectation and challenge is that you would seek to put what you learn into practice and pass on what you learn by training others.

I have a friend with a specific desire to build a team of people that will want to reach the inner city of Peoria with the Gospel.   

Please contact me for information on how to join this weekly training for trainers. If you're interested in the inner city of Peoria you'd be welcome to join us. You are just as welcome if you are interested in the same thing for a different area, demographic or people group.

Thursday, May 14, 2020

Achhe on Movement Leaders

Jeff Sundell and Jim Shannon interview Achhe, a movement leader. They also delve into the relationship between outsiders and insiders in pursuing movement.

If you can't view the audio player, click here to listen to this podcast episode.

Show Notes:
  • This episode is open source. If you would like a copy of the audio file to distribute on your own channel, please contact me.

Wednesday, May 13, 2020

Prepping for post-COVID ministry now

This post is part of an ongoing conversation I'm having with Doug Rumbold regarding post-COVID church. You can find my original post here and his response here.

I think my biggest push-back on the content driven approach most churches used to respond to COVID is the simple thought that the "medium is the message." You cannot talk at people through a screen about the importance of being the church and living as a disciple and expect them to get it.

If we didn't model and train people to be the church and live as a disciple pre-COVID, there is very little possibility they could pick it up through watching our videos during quarantine.

However, I'd rather look forward than look back. So my question is, what do we do now? 

Different areas of the country and even our own state are opening up at different rates. But even so, it looks like we still have a slog until church returns to the 2019 version of gathering we have grown accustomed to.

My question is: What do we do now?  How do we avoid selfishness in quarantine or near-quarantine circumstances? How do we place "love God, love others" on repeat?  

I'll offer a couple of ideas, but look forward to hearing more:
  • Open up the word. How many hours of good, solid, Biblical teaching and preaching have been published to the web since COVID started?  We're so thankful for that resource. But if you personally are not opening God's word to learn from it, you've missed something. If you have a family and you are not opening up the Bible and learning from it together, you've missed something. Open up the Bible and learn from it. Doing so does not exclude getting great Biblical content from your pastor online.
  • Start checking on people. We need to care for the people God has put in our life. Yes, that starts with the church, but it shouldn't stop there. Ask people how they are doing. Find out if there is any way you can help them. Offer to pray for people. Start now being the person you want to be after-COVID.
What do you think? What should we do now to get ready for post-COVID ministry?

Monday, May 11, 2020

Jay in Burma on Movement Leaders

Jeff Sundell interviews Jay, a movement catalyst and trainer on how to develop movement leaders.

If you can't view the audio player, click here to listen to this podcast episode.

Show Notes:
  • This episode is open source. If you would like a copy of the audio file to distribute on your own channel, please contact me.
  • Find out more about Jay at
  • You can read more about Jay's leadership principles on this document he created.

Saturday, May 9, 2020

Thursday, May 7, 2020

What Happens Next - A Discussion about Post-COVID Church

Note: I was discussing these ideas with a good friend and local pastor Doug Rumbold (who blogs at and we decided to turn this into a bit of a back and forth. Head to his blog in a few days for the response, and as I respond to his response I'll post links to all of our posts.

What happens next?

I think immediately after the quarantine lifts we are going to see a rush back to church. There will be excitement in meeting again and most gatherings of believers will return to their pre-COVID numbers (or maybe even higher!).

My concern is what happens 6 months after we are able to gather again.  I'm worried that that the move to online streaming, videos and content during COVID will actually work against the church in the future. 

When life "gets back to normal" and we all get busy again... sports, long work weeks, other commitments... will we still prioritize gathering as believers?

Or will the average church-goer realize they can get the same experience from their own home, on their own time, and save the hassle of getting to an in-person gathering?  I hope this is a worse case scenario that doesn't play out.

Church was never meant to be a product to be consumed, but a gathering of believers. Did our efforts to feed and care for the church during COVID reinforce a consumer mentality? Or did those efforts help all believers exercise the calling to be a disciple who makes disciples?

I hope I'm wrong with this prediction, but I'm worried I might not be.